Starring Dick Gautier, Dick Van Patten, Bernie Kopell, Richard Dimitri, Henry Polic II, Misty Rowe and David Sabin
Created by Mel Brooks, John Boni and Norman Stiles
Original US Airdate: September 10 - December 3, 1975
13 Episodes (or 12 with one double-length)
Nearly two decades before Mel Brooks tackled the Robin Hood legend on film with 1993's Robin Hood: Men in Tights, Brooks co-created a TV show that parodied the Robin Hood legend.
When Things Were Rotten had great reviews, but not so great ratings. It's still fondly remembered today as a TV show that deserved a longer run.
They laughed, they loved.
They fought, they drank.
They jumped a lot of fences.
They robbed the rich
Gave to the poor,
Except what they kept for expenses.So, when other legends are forgotten
We’ll remember back when things were rotten.
Yay for Robin Hood!
Excerpt from title song
Music: Charles Strouse, Lyrics: Lee Adams
The peasants hold their tongues
All the things beginning with P that are banned in Sherwood Forest
The first episode begins with the tax collector Bertram announcing there will be a great selling of land – the peasants’ land. This is nothing particularly new for a Robin Hood TV show. But when the peasants begin to protest, Bertram tells them to hold their tongues. And the peasants do so – quite literally, Well, we’ve left Howard Pyle’s “land of fancy” and the land of Errol Flynn. Instead we’ve entered a Sherwood Forest that could belong in a classic British panto or more precisely, a Sherwood Forest run by Mel Brooks. (Some contemporary reviewers would suggest a more American location - the Borscht Belt. Although the outdoor scenes were filmed not in the Catskills, but in California -- apparently at Lake Sherwood -- where both Douglas Fairbanks and Errol Flynn roamed around the forest looking for fights.)
The forest laws against poaching featured in the 1938 movie and the first episode of the 1955 TV series. But In this Sherwood, there’s a sign telling us “No Peasants, No Pets, No Picnicking, No Poaching And that’s only the. P’s”
The tropes you’ve come to expect in Robin Hood stories are present and ... well, more askew than correct. We see Robin swordfight on staircases more than once. And the first episode features the archery contest that goes right back to the ballad tradition, but here one of the contestants is Sir Ronald of Lord McDonald’s Golden Archers. And the back of Sir Ronald’s tunic tells us “Over 1,000,000 dispatched” just like the McDonalds Hamburgers signs of the time would tell us “Over X Billion Served”. In another episode, Sheik Achmed represents OOPEC – an organization representing the top seven Olive Oil producing countries. It’s surely a medieval predecessor of OPEC, Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries that was much in the news during the 1970s energy crisis.
In Sir Walter Scott’s Ivanhoe, the villains impersonated Locksley’s outlaw band. And in the 1950s Richard Greene TV series, both Robin Hood and Friar Tuck have exact doubles, but nothing quite beats the zaniest of all the false Robin Hoods in the third episode “The House Band” by Barry Blitzer and Jack Kaplan. When the Merry Men go to the seashore for a very modern holiday, the Sheriff assembles a band of insane fiends who are exact lookalikes for the Merry Men to destroy the heroes’ reputations. Alan-a-Dale’s double is from the island of Jersey, but looks like a mobster from New Jersey. Robin’s double is named Gregor -- and he rode with Atilla the Hun … or possibly ON Atilla the Hun.
And we also get a classic vaudeville routine made famous by the Marx Brothers in Duck Soup as Robin hides in a frame pretending to be Gregor’s mirror image. (I am pretty sure Robin Hood A Merry Family Musical also included a mirror routine. The American vaudeville and the British panto traditions are not that far apart, especially when Robin Hood comes to vaudeville.)
Yet among the zany antics and modern pop culture references, Brooks and the other writers do take a dig or two at the tropes. 1976’s Robin and Marian would question the morality of the Third Crusade, and Robin and King Richard’s roles in it. But When Things Are Rotten pokes at the centerpiece of 20th century Robin Hood lore it does so with a pointedly ironic observation.
RENALDO: You know, Robin, I’ve been thinking. How come Prince John isn’t at the Crusades with King Richard and the other Christians, slaughtering the infidels and burning their villages, huh?
ROBIN: Well, Renaldo, I guess he’s just not a very religious man.
— The Spy (episodes 11 and 12) by Lawrence H. Siegel
Little John grabs Mel Brooks
Co-creator John Boni as a gypsy
When Things Were Rotten did not actually originate with Mel Brooks. Instead it came from two guys toiling in a workshop — the Children’s Television Workshop to be precise, the studio behind acclaimed educational children’s shows on PBS. Norman Stiles was writing for Sesame Street, and among his claims to fame is the creation of the vampire muppet The Count (aka Count von Count). Meanwhile John Boni was working on Sesame Street’s sister show The Electric Company - including the Spidey Super Stories segments where Spider-Man fought Mr. Measles and the Queen Bee.
Stiles and Boni came up with a Robin Hood parody series called Waiting for Richard which they took to Norman Steinberg. Steinberg co-wrote the screenplay for the Mel Brooks film Blazing Saddles and he moved into producing with the 1974 television special Free to Be … You and Me. Steinberg showed the concept to Mel Brooks who rechristened the series When Things Were Rotten and pushed for adding actor Richard Dimitri.
Mel Brooks has a cameo as a guard in the first episode and John Boni guest stars as a gypsy in the 12th episode.
Brooks had a long run as a writer for Sid Caesar’s Your Show of Shows and was the co-creator (with Buck Henry) of the 1960s hit TV spy spoof Get Smart, but by the 1970s, Brooks was best known as an acclaimed comedy film director. However, although he served as script supervisor, Brooks did not direct any episodes of When Things Were Rotten. Brooks is only credited directly as writer with the other co-creators on the first episode. There was a some question as the time as to the extent of his involvement. In the early press for the show, Brooks said he spent two hours a day on it. In an October 1975 interview, Richard Dimitri said:
Now that his picture is finished, he has been spending five days a week on the set. He doesn’t have to, but he does because he enjoys the craziness that goes on, especially the off-camera craziness. It’s a happy set, believe me.
The Plain Dealer (Cleveland), October 23, 1975
The show did have a bevy of talented directors. The first episode is directed by Jerry Paris who directed 84 episodes of The Dick Van Dyke Show in the 1960s (as well as appearing on the show as an actor), and in the 1970s and 1980s he would direct nearly all the episodes of Happy Days. Marty Feldman (who played Igor in Brooks’s Young Frankenstein) made his directorial debut with the fourth episode “Those Wedding Bells Blues”. But the most episodes (four, if you count the double-length The Spy, as two episodes) were directed by Peter H. Hunt — who directed both the 1969 stage version and the 1972 film version of the historical musical 1776 (If you haven’t seen the movie, go watch it — it’s an utter delight.)
Robin Hood is played by Dick Gautier. He was nominated for a Tony award for his role as the Elvis-like singer Conrad Birdie in the 1960 musical Bye Bye, Birdie (although the award went to his co-star Dick Van Dyke). The Bye Bye Birdie’s song writing team of Charles Strouse and Lee Adams also created the theme tune for When Things Were Rotten. Also, in the first episode, Robin and the gang launch tax collector Bertram into the air using a trebuchet. They all say “Bye bye, Bertie” as the villain hurtles toward Nottingham Castle. Gautier also played the recurring character of Hymie the Robot in Brooks’s previous TV series Get Smart.
Gautier’s Robin is dressed (as are aell the Merry Men) in the tights and tunics that almost seem to come from the wardrobe department of the 1938 film The Adventures of Robin Hood, although this Robin leaves the hat-wearing to his band. In personality, he might be closer to Richard Greene’s 1950s TV Robin Hood than Errol Flynn’s movie version.
Robin’s noble background is alluded to in the third episode when he is familiar with the concept of a vacation and the Merry Men are not.
ROBIN: What we need is a vacation.
RENALDO: Vacation? What’s a vacation?
ROBIN: What’s a vacation? You mean to say that you’ve never gone away for a few weeks to the seashore with dad?
LITTLE JOHN: Dad? What’s dad?
FRIAR TUCK: You forget your noble background. They are but humble serfs.
"The House Band" by Barry E. Blitzer & Jack Kaplan
Just how noble is revealed in the final episode when Robin signs a note “Robin Hood. Earl of Huntingdon.” The Earl of Huntingdon has been a possible identity for Robin Hood since Anthony Munday’s Elizabethan plays, but it puts this Robin at a higher social class than either Flynn or Greene’s Robins.
In the pre-release press for the TV Mel Brooks describes this show’s version of the outlaw leader.
I see Robin as an island of sanity in the whole darn mess. Like the sergeant in McHale’s Navy he’ll be the touchstone for everybody else.
— Mel Brooks, quoted in The Hamilton Spectator, July 12, 1975
And Dick Gautier supports this view from similar press junkets.
What we’ve tried to do under Mel’s guiding hand of genius … is have me the only one in the series playing the character straight — or I might say, nearly straight.
— Dick Gautier quoted in The Journal News (Sept. 11, 1975|) and other publications
Perhaps by nearly straight, Gautier is alluding to the few times when Robin ceases to be the sanest man in the forest. In the first episode, we see his vanity regarding his archery prowess. In the fourth episode, Robin finds out that Marian is engaged to marry another man. He shows a stiff upper lip, but then goes into the tent and loudly sobs “I want to die!”
Robin is backed up by a band that conform mostly to the classic tropes but with a more comedic bent. The entire cast is solid. David Sabin plays a Little John who is honest, if not always bright.
Dick Van Patten’s Friar Tuck is wise but has flashes of anger too. Tuck is often portrayed as a glutton, but never more so than here where haunches of meat and turkey legs always seem to wind up in his hands, even during his credit in the opening.
Will Scarlet is not apparently a part of this band, unless he’s one of the nameless extras we often see. (Will was also absent from the 1973 Disney cartoon.)
Maid Marian as a spy in the castle
Maid Marian in her outlaw attire
Misty Rowe was a fixture on the long-running comedy Hee Haw, and here she plays a somewhat ditzy Marian. However, like Olivia de Havilland, Bernadette O’Farrell and Patricia Driscoll before her, Rowe’s Marian functions somewhat like a spy. She is welcome in Prince John’s court (even though the sheriff distrusts her) and in the forest with the outlaws. Although Little John is somewhat jealous of the amount of time Robin spends rescuing Marian.
And like the two Marians of the 1950s TV series, this Marian has two styles of an outfits. She has dresses for the court and a feminized version of the classic Robin Hood costume (complete with a bycocket) for when she’s hanging with the Merry Men.
The mos enjoyable of the Merry Men adapted from the classic legend is Alan-a-Dale played by Bernie Kopell. Like Dick Gautier and Mel Brooks himself, Kopell is a veteran of Get Smart where he ptlayed villainous Siegfried of KAOS. Later in the 1970s he’ll be a TV fixture as Doc Bricker on The Love Boat. But in When Things Are Rotten, Alan is a huckster — like a Hollywood talent agent — always selling Robin Hood to us. It’s a smart update on his classic role as a minstrel. Alan constantly addresses the audience and breaks the fourth wall, starting his comments with phrases like “Wanna talk about..” For example, when Robin swings in on a rope to join the band at dinner, Alan turns to us and says:
ALAN: And you ask the question, why is this man our leader?
ROBIN: Alan, please…
Yes, Robin and the others can hear him, and they get a little tired with him carrying on. And yet, Alan persists. Such as when Robin plans to walk into a trap out of a sense of duty.
ALAN: And you query why this man rules the metropolitan forest and its suburb? Is it his courage? Is it his bravery? Is it his boldness? Or is it all of the above?
But the true standout among the Merry Men is a character unique to this show -- Renaldo played by Richard Dimitri. He is a very early version of the trope of having an outsider as a member of Robin’s band. Renaldo’s specific point of origin isn’t mentioned in the episodes themselves, although he describes himself as “an immigrant” and “a resident alien” in various episodes. But 1970s audiences would recognize Renaldo as being from Puerto Rico. “Don’t ask me how he got there,” Mel Brooks quipped in contemporary interviews. Some critics alluded he got there because of popularity of Freddy Prinze’s lead character in the 70s sitcom Chico and the Man.
Although this is a different kind of outsider, one might even suggest that Dimitri and Brooks started the tend that would lead to the Muslim member of the band with Mark Ryan's Nasir from Robin of Sherwood. Or at the very least, Danny John-Jules's Barrington from Maid Marian and Her Merry Men created by Tony Robinson.
Dimitri was so popular that he was sent out on a multi-city tour to drum up support for the show when the ratings were failing. As he explained in Houston:
I put on my hard Puerto Rican street face, the one I used to wear as a kid. I’m a mixture of Russian and Assyrian, but in my old neighborhood nobody heard of such things. I thought I was Puerto Rican ‘til I was 15. And Renaldo adores Robin a lot, because Robin represents Renaldo’s father figure.
- The Houston Chronicle, Nov. 16, 1975
Renaldo might adore Robin, but he’s not as fully sold on the whole give to the poor thing. In the first episode, he tries to pull a fast one.
LITTLE JOHN: Robin, how did we do today?
ROBIN: Yes, Renaldo The day’s receipts, please.
RENALDO: We stole from the rich 274 gold sovereigns. We gave to the poor 264 gold sovereigns. Even! Can I have an apple?
LITTLE JOHN: What even? What happened to the other 10 gold sovereigns.
RENALDO: Hey, man. We got expenses. You can’t run around the forest today for nothing. Arrows are going up! I know not where.
- The Capture of Robin Hood by Mel Brooks, John Boni and Norman Stiles
Renaldo gets into more hot water in the double-length / two-part episode "The Spy". He’s acting as a double agent to help Robin gather information. But when the other Merry Men discover Renaldo’s been talking to the Sheriff of Nottingham, they capture Renaldo and prepare to hold a trial. And it is Dimitri who delivers one of the show’s best fourth-wall breaks.
RENALDO: Wait a minute! I can explain everything! No! No! I’m no spy! I’m innocent!
TUCK: Tell that to your maker.
RENALDO: My maker? Mel, I’m innocent!
- The Spy by Lawrence H. Siegel
In this show, the "maker" isn't God, but "Mel".
One of the things that makes Dimitri the true star of the show is that he not only plays Renaldo, but also Renaldo’s twin brother Bertram who is a loyal lackey of the sheriff. The twins fight in the first episode, and Bertram threatens his brother (on screen at the same time thanks to a split screen) “In a minute, you’ll be laughing out of the other side of our face.” Both versions of Dimitri turn to the camera to acknowledge another hilarious fourth wall break.
In interviews Dimitri said that Bertram was his favourite of the two brothers.
Mel asked me how I saw him and I said he was a supercilious toad, a survivor, a junior executive. I used Sir Laurence Olivier as the model because his speech pattern is so marvelous.
— The Houston Chronicle, Nov. 16, 1975
Bertram is my favourite of the two brothers too, but that’s because Dimitri often portrays him as an overgrown child, looking for approval for his nasty masters but with an earnest and gentle sweetness that makes him loveable.
Ron Rifkin’s Prince John is also a child-man, but far less loveable than Bertram is. Prince John is the stupid and bratty five-year old maniac. That wasn’t the original plan. Norman Stiles originally envisioned the prince or king as gay, complaining about his drapes or his earrings. There were complaints and so the part was changed — probably for the better. Jane A. Johnston turns up in three episodes as his wife, Princess Isabelle. (Rifkin is good in the part, but |I do prefer the more neurotic Prince John of Richard Lewis.)
But the main villain is the Sheriff of Nottingham played with absolute gusto by Henry Polic II. With his dark hair, moustache and goatee, he more closely resembles Basil Rathone’s Sir Guy of Gisbourne than Melville Cooper’s sheriff from the 1938 film. There’s also a touch of Alan Wheatley’s sheriff from the 1950s TV series to Polic’s sheriff. But Polic has something the previous sheriffs and Gisbournes did not — an absolutely perfect, full-throated evil laugh.
It points the way toward Alan Rickman’s delightfully insane Sheriff of Nottingham in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. Polic’s Sheriff is barking mad — literally. When he’s particularly annoyed he launches into snarling, growling sounds. He only calms down when another character tells him he’s not talking. It also hints towards a verbal tic in Mel Brooks’s later stab at the legend Robin Hood: Men in Tights. The Sheriff of Rottingham (played wonderfully by Roger Rees) gets tongued-tied and scrambles the word order when he’s upset.
Sid Caesar as the French Ambassador
Ron Glass as The Black Knight
When Things Were Rotten has many great guest stars.
Jimmy Martinez turns up in five episodes as Sylvester, the most memorable of the various oppressed peasants.
The second episode “The French Dis-Connection” features Sid Caesar as the French ambassador. Mel Brooks used to be a writer on that comedy legend’s shows. In his autobiography, Brooks remarks the episode with Caesar was “the best one we did”.
The fourth episode “Those Wedding Bell Blues” has Dudley Moore as Sheik Achmed. In the same episode, Robin, Marian and the others find themselves on a wizard’s couch discussing their psychological problems. The wizard is played by Steve Landesberg. And the sixth episode “The Ultimate Weapon” stars impressionist (and later star of Bizarre) John Byner as the mad German scientist Dr. Otto Bahn.
There’s no credit for who appears as the barely glimpsed King Richard in the “The Spy” (the 11th and 12th episodes, aired together), but whoever provided the voice did a wonderful Winston Churchill impression, a splendidly modern wink at the “good King Richard” tradition.
And then, in the 13th and final episode “This Lance for Hire”, the Sheriff of Nottingham hires the Black Knight to dispose of Robin Hood in a slight parody of High Noon. In Sir Walter Scott’s novel Ivanhoe, the Black Knight is King Richard in disguise. In the 1952 movie adaptation, the Black Knight is Sir Wilfred of Ivanhoe himself. But in this episode’s final minutes, the Black Knight reveals himself to the Merry Men as Lester of Chichester played by Ron Glass, best known at the time for his role as Detective (later Sergeant) Harris on the sitcom Barney Miller. As he leaves, the show winks at the fact that the Black Knight is played by a Black man.
RENALDO: Man, I ain’t never seen anything like that in the forest before.
ROBIN: Yes, a knight with a moustache.
- This Lance for Hire by Jack Amob & Bruce Selitz
It’s a pity that the character of Lester and the show itself didn’t stick around. Decades later Ron Glass would be present to see another show get cancelled too soon as he appears as a sort of futuristic Friar Tuck, Shepherd Book, in Joss Whedon’s short-lived Firefly (2002) and its movie sequel Serenity (2005).
The show was launched with good press and predictions of its success. The Chicago Tribune declared “It’s truly an uproarious show that should hook viewers of all ages each Wednesday night”. Syndicated columnist Dick Kleiner called it “Perhaps the most exciting of all the new shows”. A month later, the ratings were down and so were the reviews.
“When Things Were Rotten” also started out well in the ratings race, grabbing a very respectable 36% share of the audience for its premiere showing. It has slipped each week since and last week was down to a 30% share.
That it has not slipped even more must be that many of the nation’s viewers have mentalities equal to that of a kindergarten child. Last week’s episode was an outright embarrassment.
— William Hickey, The Plain Dealer (Oct. 6, 1975)
Hickey said they might have used up all their humour in the pilot as no other episodes measured up to it. He might have been harsher than most critics, but sentiment did begin to turn against the show. ABC pulled the plug on When Things Were Rotten and five other shows (including Saturday Night Live with Howard Cosell — freeing up NBC’s Saturday Night to later add “Live” to their show’s name). Hickey had a few choice words for Brooks and When Things Were Rotten.
It was thought by many that Brooks and Cosell would be granted reprieves because of their select position in the ABC-TV scheme of things. That their shows lacked the necessary ingredients to attract public acclaim was fairly obvious to all but diehard fans of the tenacious twosome.
Brooks, for example, was given unprecedented publicity all last summer and had the network in his pocket like few men ever have. That he botched the job in spectacular fashion goes without saying. He mounted a piece of pure drivel that proved unacceptable even to the small fry.
— William Hickey, The Plain Dealer (Dec. 1, 1975)
Our ratings weren’t bad, and we got some nice notices, so I thought the series was going to go places. And then, BANG! ABC decided it was too expensive to make and pulled the plug. The cancellation was sudden and unexpected. I thought, They’re standing in line to see Mel Brooks movies, and I’m giving them free Mel Brooks on television and ABC just cancels it? Well, that’s show business. Ups and downs. We can only hope we get more ups than downs. But little did I know that Robin Hood was still in my future…
— Mel Brooks, All About Me
In 1993, Mel Brooks released a feature film satire Robin Hood: Men in Tights. It borrowed and satirized whole scenes from 1938’s The Adventures of Robin Hood and 1991’s Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. Along the way, he borrowed a few gags from When Things Were Rotten. In both cases, there is an archery contest where it is Robin's opponents -- and not, as is usually the case, Robin himself -- who split the arrow first, In both Brooks versions, Robin shoots another arrow -- arrows that turn around in mid-air and enter the target from the back.
He also borrowed a few cast members.
1975 Dick Van Patten as Friar Tuck shouts "Hey, Abbot!"
1993: Someone shouts "Hey, Abbot!" at Dick Van Patten's Abbot
Dick Van Patten called up ready to play Friar Tuck once again, but Brooks told him that the role had been transformed into Rabbi Tuckman with Brooks himself in the part. Instead, Van Patten has a smart part as an abbot. An abbot featured in the TV version too, and Van Patten’s got to show Lou Costello’s famous line “Hey, Abbott!” (The TV version also featured a riff on the famous Abbott and Costello routine “Who’s on first.”) In the 1993 film, someone else shouts “Hey, Abbot!” At Van Patten’s abbot. He complains “I hate that guy!”
1975: Robert Ridgely as Hollingsworth
1993: Robert Ridgely as Boris
And then there’s the executioner/hangman. Robert Ridgely appeared in 1974’s Blazing Saddles, wearing an eye patch and imitating Boris Karloff. In the tenth episode of When Things Were Rotten (“Birthday Blues”), Ridgely appears again as a one-eyed execution with a Karloffesque voice, although this time the character is named Hollingsworth. Ridgely’s Boris the Hangman is back in Men in Tights, along with his eye patch (on the other eye) and Karloff voice.
Men in Tights is a fun film, but honestly I think When Things Were Rotten is generally funnier.
It is a shame that When Things Are Rotten is not better remembered than it is. There have been a lot of Robin Hood parodies and satires over the years, but this is one of the best.
The Robin Hood was legend was split in two in the 1970s. Wolfshead was released in 1973 (even though it was filmed in 1969) and stripped the legend of some of the cinematic tropes. The same year the funnier Disney cartoon hit theatres. When Things Were Rotten came out the same year as the British TV series The Legend of Robin Hood, where a lot of the lead characters are killed.
As much as I like the serious takes on the legend, it's good to laugh. And Mel Brooks and his gang provide quite a few laughs in this show.
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